Can You Ever Lie To Tell The Truth?

by Lisa

This post was published on Chip MacGregor’s blog last week. Chip is the president of MacGregor Literary Agency, and my agent. His blog was recently named one of the best writing websites for writers by Writers Digest Magazine over the weekend – #10 on their list of 101 best sites. So, writers, jump on over and check it out. And in the meantime, here’s my piece on memoir and truth telling they premiered while I was busy packing and unpacking boxes over here in Laos.

Can You Ever Lie To Tell The Truth?

In January I listened to a This American Life episode called Mr. Daisy and the Apple Factory, which was excerpted from a monologue called The Agony and Ecstasy of Steve Jobs by Mike Daisey. The monologue described Daisey’s encounters with workers from the Foxconn factories in China that make Apple products.

Like many others, I was deeply moved by this story. It hit particularly close to home because, as I’m living in Laos, the factories he describes lay only one border away.

The episode became the most downloaded podcast in the 16-year history of This American Life. It launched a thousand editorials. It inspired a petition—signed by more than 250,000 people—demanding Apple guarantee ethical treatment of its workers. And last week it became the first show This American Life has ever retracted.

It turns out that Daisey didn’t actually witness some of the most egregious conditions he describes, such as workers as young as twelve and those poisoned by neurotoxic chemicals.

TAL explains:

“As best as we can tell, Mike’s monologue in reality is a mix of things that actually happened when he visited China and things that he just heard about or researched, which he then pretends that he witnessed first hand. And the most powerful and memorable moments in the story all seem to be fabricated.

Some of the falsehoods found in Daisey’s monologue are small ones: the number of factories Daisey visited in China, for instance, and the number of workers he spoke with. Others are large…He claims to have met a group of workers who were poisoned on an iPhone assembly line by a chemical called n-hexane. Apple’s audits of its suppliers show that an incident like this occurred in a factory in China, but the factory wasn’t located in Shenzhen, where Daisey visited. It happened nearly a thousand miles away.”

Last week, in a new episode called Retraction, TAL’s producer, Ira Glass, and Daisey sat down to discuss the ensuing scandal.

Frankly, I expected a more nuanced discussion on the topic of truth from two such talented communicators.

An understandably outraged Glass—who Daisey had personally lied to about the name and contact details of his translator and the literal accuracy of his account—kept equating “factually correct” with “truth”. He insisted that Daisey’s monologue wasn’t “strictly speaking a work of truth but a work of fiction that has some true elements in it.

Daisey, on the other hand, did himself no favors during this interview. He sounded stressed, even panicked. He paused for uncomfortably long periods of time. He prevaricated constantly.

“I use the tools of theater and memoir,” Daisey said at one point. “I don’t know that I would say in a theatrical context that it isn’t true…we have different languages for what the truth means.”

“I understand that you believe that,” Glass said, “but I think you’re kidding yourself in the way that normal people [interpret theatre and memoirs]… I thought it was true because you were on stage saying ‘this happened to me.’ I took you at your word.”

Missing from Glass’ questioning was an acknowledgement of the existence of any truth beyond the literal recounting of events. And, astonishingly, missing from Daisey’s defense was a coherent statement along the lines of: “I judged that inventing some characters, encounters, and dialogue would serve to illuminate a larger truth for the greater good.”

The closest Daisey got to this was saying, “Everything I have done…has been…to make people care. I’m not going to say that I didn’t take a few shortcuts in my passion to be heard. But I stand behind the work. My mistake, the mistake that I truly regret is that I had it on your show as journalism and it’s not journalism. It’s theater.”

This incident highlights many important (although hardly novel) questions. Should memoir and theater be equated? Is there such a thing as a “larger” truth? Should factual truth ever be subordinated to emotional or other larger truths for the sake of advocacy or “art”? Which sorts of factual distortions are generally acceptable in memoir and which aren’t?

As far as Daisey’s monologue, I understand why he was tempted to misappropriate events that had actually happened and present them as personal experience. I applaud the result as a powerful piece of storytelling. I think, however, that he went so far in his fictionalizing that he should never have used the label “memoir” without a disclaimer attached, much less the label “journalism” that This American Life required.

When we write a memoir or a personal essay (or perform a first-person-narrative theater piece that purports to memoir) we are leveraging the power of actuality­­—the inherent emotional force generated by claiming “this happened to me just like this”. In exchange for this power we relinquish the right to significantly embellish, manipulate, or invent.

So then, what counts as “significantly”?

That’s the tough question that usually has to be answered with the frustratingly equivocal. “It depends.”

I think it depends on how well we remember what actually happened. It depends on which timelines, characters, events, or conversations we feel the need to change, and why. It depends on how many and what sort of other factual tweaks you have already made, because I agree with Glass on this point. Your readers (or listeners) will assume that what you’re recounting happened to you, pretty much as you’re telling it. Every timeline shift, re-creation, composition, or invention takes you further away from the narrative your readers would judge as “factual” and, contrary to what some of my fellow authors might argue, I think reader’s expectations on this front must be taken into account.

If we want to write something and call it memoir we can’t just play as fast and loose as we want to with a literal recounting under the guise of serving art. We need to be able to look a reader in the eye and confidently explain how our story serves the truth, yes, but a clear conscience isn’t quite enough. How we’ll label our account, and what others will take that label to mean, must also guide our choices.  If most people would feel betrayed if they knew the “factual truth” behind our memoir, then I think we’re doing something wrong.

The well-known memoirist, Vivian Gornick, once said that “what the memoirist owes the reader is the ability to persuade that the narrator is trying, as honestly as possible, to get to the bottom of the experience at hand.” I’ve used that statement as a touchstone more than once in writing my own memoir pieces. Now Daisey’s very public debacle has furnished me with a less ambiguous reference point to use when answering tricky questions related to truth—­the prospect of a public grilling. And I know just how I’ll begin my reply in the unlikely event that I’m ever the one asked on national radio whether you can lie to tell the truth.

Well, Ira, it depends.

What do you think? Can you ever lie to tell the truth?

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13 comments

Hilary April 9, 2012 - 6:36 pm

Interesting. . . I think the lawyer in me sees this as a much clearer breach than an artist might. In a trial, a witness (with a few exceptions) can only testify to her own personal experience. What did she see and hear? We are able to assess credibility of that person and determine what to believe. When someone is acting in the role of a journalist, it’s in some ways as a witness to the rest of the world of an event. In a trial, a jury is allowed to discard the entire testimony if they believe that a witness is not credible. When a journalist makes things up, I think people feel the same way. We cannot believe anything he said. My non-professional-writer-thought would be that any modifications from the actual truth need to be clear and the work should not be presented as journalism. The effect of any part being show to be false can be that the entire work is discarded. As for memoir, I think it should be a similarly high standard, or there should be an explanation that some events and people were changed. Hilary

Lisa April 13, 2012 - 4:14 pm

I agree the work should never have been presented as journalism (and Daisey himself admits that now, too). I’m also of the opinion he shouldn’t have used the memoir label. He could maybe have used the “based on actual events” label though.

morealtitude April 10, 2012 - 12:35 am

Love this piece Lis. Part way through my immediate internal response was exactly the one you pushed towards- that the expectations of your reader are paramount in how much ‘liberty’ you can take with the truth. Where Daisey went wrong is that, instead of standing up at the beginning and acknowledging ‘some of what I’m about to tell you didn’t happen to me, but it will help me better communicate to you if I express it in the first person’- or an acknowledgement to the effect of- there wouldn’t have been the slightest issue (although, by the same token, I suspect his piece wouldn’t have had the same take-up). Therein lies the problem though- he allowed- took advantage of, even- the fact that his readers would assume he was being factual in his rendition of events.

Truth in personal narrative is always a bit tricky because memory is tainted by inaccuracies and perspectives. I struggled with this when I wrote about the ambush in Darfur. I spent a lot of time dredging my memory to recall very minute details about what had happened and recount them as close to factually accurate as I could. Part of that relates to expressing things such as my own emotional reactions, and things that I actually did- things that I have a stronger recollection over. Many of the details I included were based off a common cross-referencing with others who had been there, which leant additional legitimacy to how I perceived things. I still included a disclaimer at the beginning of the piece, however, which pointed out that the re-telling was based off memory, and that memory was flawed. By including this, I to some extent gave myself some room for error. But, in my opinion, error justified only in as much as I stuck with good faith to my position of trying to recall as accurately as possible, and not embellish.

Any retelling of a series of factual events involve some level of simplification, of short-cuts and narrative techniques, which by definition alter the truth. Even the most detailed description of a smell is only a faint representation through the limited medium of words of the physical experience of those particular molecules interacting with our olfactory sensors, and as such we can only frame a narrative as a point on a notional spectrum between ‘fact’ and ‘fiction’, or ‘truth’ and ‘untruth’- it is never going to be fully one thing and, given that words are invariably some kind of reflection of an empirical truth that exists to be described, fully the other either.

So yes, in short, I agree with you. It depends. 🙂

Lisa April 13, 2012 - 4:23 pm

But you agree so eloquently :). Yeah, memory. Memoir. Tricky. I’m sure whole books have been written on this topic. I think most writers understand that memoir is based off of memories and memories are flawed and only one window into a complex picture, but you do sort of forget that sometimes when you’re reading or listening to an “I account”, especially one told well, that engages you emotionally. That’s what makes people even more angry, I think, when they feel feel something for you as a result of that story, and then they find out that things may not have happened exactly as you said they did. And I don’t think you need to get to Daisey-esque levels of taking license before people will feel betrayed. I think composite characters, altered timelines, etc, all needs to be acknowledged.

Michelle April 10, 2012 - 7:46 am

I remember (imperfectly, clearly) talking about this with you and then listening to the retraction episode a day or two later. Then, as now, what concerned me the most wasn’t the line between journalism/memoir/theater, but an unwillingness to complicate the story being sold. Maybe this isn’t exactly the issue at hand here, but in a world where we’re more and more in touch with people who are really, deeply culturally unlike ourselves, this tendency to want to create palatable heroes and villains gets very dangerous. So what to me was so upsetting about this piece was what is so upsetting about most of the news lately about Libya, Israel, Iran, Uganda, and of course China. We are, I think, so eager to find an action that is “the right thing to do” that we don’t want to complicate this narrative with the messy actual truth–that good guys are sometimes bad, that bad guys say good things, that in the end, bad and good as we understand it end up mostly irrelevant in economic, spiritual, and cultural contexts that aren’t our own. That the way we (meaning the west, and I suppose the US specifically) process information and arrive at judgements isn’t “the” way, but “a” way.

It’s a scary thing. It doesn’t promote action, but study and contemplation, and I think as a nation (since it’s “This American Life” it seems appropriate to address the US) we are less and less interested in contemplating anything but ourselves–and given the billions we spend on weapons every year, I find this terrifying.

Complexity adds inches to columns; there’s no way around it. I don’t know if we have to try to change people’s appetites for information or just ignore them for the sake of actually providing the truth. I suppose my standard of truth these days is that there MUST be shades of gray, or my suspicions are aroused. And I don’t find that sad–I find it liberating; I find it to be a way of loving the world as it actually is. I sympathize with the desire to create an emotionally taut narrative. But maybe we need to work on creating healthy tastes in information the same way we do with food–maybe what this should point out, in the end, is that we need to work on our appetite for complexity.

(And yeah, a bunch of factory workers getting together to talk about labor issues in Starbucks? The idea that a story like that could fly in any kind of journalistic setting makes me really worry for our comprehension about the way most of the rest of the world lives.)

Lisa April 13, 2012 - 4:35 pm

This is such a good point. I think Daisey would argue that he was adding complexity to a narrative – the pre-existing “Apple products are hip and cool and great and we should all own them” narrative. Yet his own narrative of “Apple is (in some cases, needlessly) perpetuating human rights abuses in the making of their products” itself lacked complexity. Yet it was a powerful theatrical piece and it’s emotional power would perhaps have been lessened if it were a more balanced/complex rendition. Perhaps one thing this all illustrates is that no narrative can ever aspire to be completely balanced (although I think you’re right and plenty could work harder to be more complex, nuanced and balanced) and we should never rely on one source or one story when we’re forming our opinions on a topic. Never.

I think journalists (or maybe, editors and publishers, rather) would argue that complexity doesn’t sell not just because it adds inches and increases print space needed, but because people just won’t attend to it. Won’t read anything too long, or too demanding. So I think your point at the end is fascinating. How would you propose we work on our appetite for complexity (or encourage a social shift in this in general)?

Oh, and also, missed hanging out this last two weeks. Leslie told me you were busy sailing an inflatable raft down the Mekong, or something, last week when they were round – hope that all went well. See you in about five weeks.

Joslyne April 10, 2012 - 12:22 pm

I think Tim O’Brien’s “The Things They Carried” is the best example of fiction getting to a whole truth in a way that “factual telling” can’t. He does label it as fiction though . . .

I’m not a fan of Daisey “lying” in interviews, but once you take to the stage or even to a book it becomes art/story. I’m not sure there has ever been a memior or piece of non-fiction written that is all true. Whenever we write we bring ourselves into it and our experience of an event will never be the same as someone else’s experience of the same event. The truth lies in “I was there” or “I just heard about it” but changing that point of view takes away from the craft/impact of the writing. What to do . . . What to do . . .

Lisa April 13, 2012 - 4:36 pm

I really enjoyed that book!! As for what to do … I don’t know. I do know that I personally can’t stomach too much straying from the facts as I remember them in my own essays/memoir. Perhaps it’s the forensic training, but even composite characters feel too far afield for me, though I do understand why some other memoirists have used them in their stories to good effect.

Vivien April 13, 2012 - 12:32 pm

Love your work Lisa.
When I saw your blog had been nominated for the People’s Choice, Best Australian Blog award I voted for you.

Lisa April 13, 2012 - 4:12 pm

Wowwweee! Thank you. I’m amazed you stumbled across that. I haven’t had time to download the widgets or let people know. Many thanks again and hope you’re well over there in my homeland 🙂

Vivien April 13, 2012 - 11:29 pm

Download the widget!!

I was keeping an eye open because I nominated you as I’m sure other people did too.

We’re fine here, enjoying some sunshine today, still renovating and I get my travel fix these days by reading your stories and catching up with my sons.

Lisa April 17, 2012 - 3:38 pm

Good stuff. I will download the widget soon. Yes I will. 🙂

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